when you're winning who thinks about losing?
But..
when you face with what i'm looking at, a cold and hopeless fact
a fact you like to ignore..."You can not win"
it's only a question of why.
it's because there is something about yourself that you don't know.
something that you will deny even exists
untill it's too late to do anything about it.
it's the only reason you get up in the morning
the only reason you're rude, your sins imprisoned you
this is because you want ppl to know how good , attractive , generous , funny , wild and clever..you really are.
"i'll obey you but please think i'm special"

you share an addiction
you're approval junkies.
you're all in it for the slap with the back of the right hand
and the gold watch.
the hip hio hoo-bloody-rah
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Hashemi-Khatami-Karoubi and the Mousavi, which one is your leader finally? you and your leaders are just monkeys wrapped in suits,
begging for the approval of foreigners, stealing money from ppl and feeding your big tummies.
and if you had a second chance, you would ask...why?
why and how could anything that looks so good so be bad?
the answer is nice and slowly
because beauty is a destructive angel
because there is no angel as destructive as your greed
at the end when you get over it
you think you can handle it
but the greed is the only snake that can not be handled...
you must accept the Islamic Republic, everyone has only one vote as long as 90% of Iranians are muslims [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Iran"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Iran[/URL] muslims vote for muslims, i say Mousavi stole ppl's vote, cuz in the beginning he said he's lover of Islamic revolution but once he got defeated by Ahmadinejad, he took off his mask and showed his real face to everyone, he lost all his votes, for now a few non muslims that were enemies of Iranians ppl from the beginning are making noise in streets.
Leave Iran and let muslims live in their own islamic country in peace! for israel's sake, or whatever you believe in!
Iran is just passing a crisis, a green crisis, i say it should happen, now ppl love Islamic Republic more than before...

Before I start I want you to take a look at these..
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Jews owned west.....:huh_oh3:
Western leaders are all Jews...
Before world war II, Palestine was a country, Jews, Muslims and Christians were living in peace but under control of UK, colonialism lol every time i hear the word colonialism, UK flag comes in front of my eyes
Jews and and many Western countries were planning on something since years ago.
Jews were so rich, after world war II UK soldiers left Palestine, first Palestinians thought they're gone but in meanwhile some soldiers with new uniforms came to Palestine with a white and blue flag and a king David star on it, started a mass killing, made Palestinians to leave their home by force...
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some Palestinians went to Gaza, some had no place to go but outside of Palestine. 6 Arab countries came together to stop Zionism, but Zionism was just about to start and we were sleeping....when Israel defeated those six countries in a few days easily cuz of a better Technology, Palestinians who were promised by Arab countries that they will be taken back to Palestine, never came back and they are still living in other countries.
Israel killed many Palestinians in 60 years in their own homeland but the biggest killing against Palestine happened in Gaza, where Palestinians really had no place to go...and but i say the bigger killing against Palestinians is that some news point at Palestinians as invaders
Gaza is a big prison, surrounded by Israel and Egypt slave of US but before Gaza war...
-123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.
-1,062 Israelis and at least 4,876 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000.
-8,341 Israelis and 33,034 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000.
-During Fiscal Year 2007, the U.S. gave more than $6.8 million per day to Israel and $0.3 million per day to the Palestinians.
-Israel has been targeted by at least 65 UN resolutions and the Palestinians have been targeted by none.
-1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 10,756 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel.
-0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 18,147 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967.
-Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.
you may now wonder how Western news media works in favor of Israel...many ppl around the world still think Palestinians are invaders and they don't let Zionists live in peace. as you all heard not a long time ago some Al-Qaeda militants got into Gaza and fought Hamas, but the question is how did they get into Gaza without Israel's permission or it was with Israel's permission? is Israel behind all terrorist groups in middle east? why not? what does Israel want for middle east except unsafety? Israel gets controlled by white house, Israel is just a dog , sometimes US tell Chinese we can't control this dog, it's wild it may attack Iran and then your oil field and your money will be in danger so vote against Iran, but just like Ahmadinejad said let that dog come for us, we can handle it if you can't...Israel should attack Iran once Ahmadinejad said that but they didn't it's because they know the gates of hell are waiting for them in any military action against Iran. but the good news is Israel is leaving. being good makes Devil suffer, there is no source but good and bad, having an Islamic Republic and a brave president like Ahmadinejad makes Israel suffer, being good damages Evil, what we are is what destroying Israel, just like Ahmadinejad said soon Israel will disappear if you all good ppl around the world keep supporting the free Palestine and Islamic resistance in Lebanon and Gaza, evil never wins.

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this is a war between Evil and Good, there's no need to be Evil to defeat Evil, just be Good.

think of Gaza ppl tonight, it's winter and very cold....hang on folks.

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let's not make them wait any longer

YouTube Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6edg7OjLyw

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."

– David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."

– David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"

– Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

– David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."

–David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."

– David Ben-Gurion 1938 (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

"…we should remove all Arabs and take their place."

–David Ben-Gurion, First Israeli Prime Minister.

"If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with israel … that is natural: we have taken their country."

–David Ben-Gurion, Father of Israel

"I don't see anything immoral in it."

–David Ben-Gurion, First Israeli Prime Minister.

"[Israel will] create in the course of the next 10 or 20 years conditions which would attract natural and voluntary migration of the refugees from the Gaza Strip and the west Bank to Jordan. To achieve this we have to come to agreement with King Hussein and not with Yasser Arafat."

–Yitzhak Rabin (a "Prince of Peace" by Clinton's standards), explaining his method of ethnically cleansing the occupied land without stirring a world outcry. (Quoted in David Shipler in the New York Times, 04/04/1983 citing Meir Cohen's remarks to the Knesset's foreign affairs and defense committee on March 16.)

"[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs."

– Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the 'Beasts,"' New Statesman, June 25, 1982.

"The settlement of the Land of Israel is the essence of Zionism. Without settlement, we will not fulfill Zionism. It's that simple."

– Yitzhak Shamir, Maariv, 02/21/1997.

"(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers … heads smashed against the boulders and walls."

– Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."

–Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.

"I would have joined a terrorist organization."

– Ehud Barak's response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha'aretz newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been born a Palestinian.

"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."

– Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours…Everything we don't grab will go to them."

– Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.

"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial."

– Israeli Prime Minis ter Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online

"No one has the right to put the State of Israel on trial."

–Arial Sharon, Former Israeli Prime Minister

"There is a country which happens to be called Palestine … a country without people."

–Chaim Weismann, Israel's first President

"We've come to conquer a country from people inhabiting it."

–Moshe Sharatt, Second Israeli Prime Minister

"…There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

–Moshe Dayan, Former Israeli Defense/Foreign Minister

"There is no more Palestine. Finished…."

–Moshe Dayan, former Israeli Defense/foreign Minister

How to quell the Iranian protesters?

If the current Iranian government wants to stay in power - despite the accusation of being a dictatorship - all they have to do is build a wall around Gaza and drop Hezb'Allah, then they will be able to crush any Iranian opposition demonstrations with full democratic support from the United States, France, and United Kingdom. Chances are, Ahmadinejad will be able to bequeath his children the presidency.

Western democracy "is down" like that.

...and

We are in an age of upheaval and revelation. As it is seen and felt throughout the little universe which we call human history, or humanity if you will, we come upon an intersection where we not only are questioning ourselves in an objective way, but trying to have a contract with the creation by superimposing subjectivity onto ourselves in a mean of sacrificial lamb offering to the creativity behind all of creation.

Is it really that difficult to understand, differentiate and come to the conclusion that all are combined into a sphere of belief and disbelief?

Are we not yet so fully developed to conclude that the path we have chosen for ourselves regarding the religious revelations in any shape or form are in a calamity. This has resulted in many clashes of a grandiose size; not to mention the great brain seizure it has caused for many, which of course manifests itself and bestows itself upon us in a shape of our conformity in selective captivity that has diminished our imagination and captivated our pure source of creativity.

Is your mind in a catatonic state or is it just poisoned by the words that has no harmony to it, and which we call religion?

Or maybe we are the source of all creation, because of the fact that our mind are in a boundary that in itself it has no boundaries. Maybe I created what I consider to be the truth and the holy by one sparkle, imagine what I as a human being can accomplish once this sparkle unleashes the power within...

Since I am limited to 4 photos, I'll post the link to my Grozny photobucket album.

http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...nya/?start=all

Here's a suggestion that would make the board a lot, a lot better...

It's not only posts like this (which make about 50% of Alienoz's posts) that range from anti-Kurdish propaganda, inciting hate against Kurds or actuall racist attacks against the Kurdish race that he shouldb be banned.

Note: These are just a few examples, the worse ones have been deleted so...

"You are a Kurd. Safavids fought against Ottomans. Dont take the honor of Safavids for Kurdish people."

"We are hated by Europeans because some Kurds with Turkish citizenship doing criminal acts. People in Europe think Kurds as "Mountain Turks" hehehehehe."

"We are hated by Europeans because some Kurds with Turkish citizenship doing criminal acts. People in Europe think Kurds as "Mountain Turks" hehehehehe."

"Try to feel empathy for him. He is a Kurd, he is heimatlos. He dreams all day about great kurdish state in the heart of ME. Being humiliated by Turks, he has strong hatred agianst Turks.

He thinks Iran will grant Kurds an independent Kurdistan. Funny, because Iran is more Turkic than Kurdic.

The day US abandons Kurds, Turks should finish the job there. No pull back no remorse. Finish'em. This is a hope from my heart, nothing to do with realities."

"After so many times, I decide to write about Turkiye and Turks. I realized that you dont know the situation here.

-Our government is under disguise of Muslimhood, but in reality it is promoting separatism, Kurdish crimes and Kurdistan.
-Turkish businesses were/are taken by Kurds and pro-akp d.ckheads.
-Our economy is in real bad shape. We are selling everything, we are taking debts. We are in financial occupation.
-We have less honor than Iraqis. Think Iraqis under occupation. Think Turks living free.
-Turkish Armed Forces and Judicial System are our only chance. If they fail, then I have to take arms to fight them.
-Turkish Islam is dangerous to Islam. If you count Saudi King "Muslim", then yes akp is Muslim. But I say: akp is kuffar/kafir or munafik, or whatever it is.

I dont care what akp does to me. I had enough. They have limited time. I am ready to fight against their unjust and evil plans!"

"Either Russia will return to Caucasus, or Kurds will invade Azerbaijan. Choose one!"

"1) Who are you, my friend? Welcome to the forum. I like to know your nationality.

2) There are things I have to tell:

-Barzani has his own secret service which uses Kurds inside Turkiye.
-Peshmerga is no match for Turkish Armed Forces. But lets not underestimate their strength.
-Peshmerga is Israel, my friend. Barzani is not Muslim nor Christian. You guess his religion.
-Last attacks show PKK gained much complex tactics and equipments. That means they took training, intelligence and some advanced weaponry such as thermal sights, AA guns etc..."

Even Kaiser_tr once admitted "Alienoz is a hard-core racist".

Or comments like:

"I would never marry a Persian, I don't want my children to have your inferriority."

But the main point is, how many threads has this guy ruined?

He is ruining almost every thread with his BS theories, acting like he's smart, but he's actually dillusionall. I'm not talking about theories like his theorie that Kurds are actually monkeys but but all his BS about Russia and NATO, ect. He for instance totally ruined the South Ossetian War thread. And he is spreading many more of these garbage in other threeds about Israel-Iran-Arabs, America, ect.

He's not constructive, he's just a waste of space and so are his comments...

Considering nowadays people are getting thier 2005 and 2006 accounts banned because of the smallest things, this guy should also be deleted, preferably also all his posts and all posts quoting him should be deleted.

An Ode to the Fatherland

Behold our most sacred Republic
Whose sacred soil and lands allure
Of which history tells since times pre-biblic
Winds divine and waters pure!

Behold our most sacred Republic
Shining in all her splendor forth
Radiance brilliant and countenance angelic
In whose bosom we were given birth

Behold our most sacred Republic
For her our conscript fathers gave their blood
In whose memory we weep, nostalgic
Swearing vengeance in tears aflood!

Arise o sons of the Republic!
Be citizens loyal, exemplified
Thieves and briggands will be flogged
Deserters will be crucified!

Arise! O sons of the Republic!
And claim her place in history
In calm and strife be yet apostolic
Come seize thy glorious destiny!

24 Mirage F1s
4 Su-20 Fitters
40 Su-22 Fitters
24 Su-24 Fencer
7 Su-25 Frogfoots
4 MiG-29 Fulcrums
9 MiG-23 Floggers
15 Il-76s (including 2 AWACs)
20 Mi-25

I was banned a day ago, because i defended my country from slandering talks initiated by our enemies, enemies that lure everywhere in the forum who can be seen from the top to the bottom in the hierarchy of the forum!

I feel that my rights has been violated and demand reprimand on the record of the administrator who banned me.

If i am about to get banned i will accept that only if an IRANIAN administrator bans me. Then i will not say a word and will not protest.

howcome that only a foreign admin banned me without even talking to me on on one? is that a justified way? i will not sell my country to be ruled by foreigners....you will have to step over my dead body to that! this is in force oth in the forum and elsewhere....

ZENDE BAD IRANE MAN....

Iraqi fighters (and attack aircraft) downed by Iranian fighters

14 Su-20
21 Su-22
38 MiG-21
62 MiG-23
16 MiG-25
3 MiG-27
4 Super Etendard
41 Mirage F1
8 unknown
total: 207

Iraqi fighters downed by Iranian helicopters (AH-1J)
1 MiG-21
total: 1

Iraqi Helicopters downed by Iranian fighters
3 SA.321
1 SA.342
6 Mi-8
3 Mi-25
1 Bell-214
total: 14

Iraqi Helicopters downed by Iranian helicopters (AH-1J)
1 SA.316
9 SA.342
6 Mi-25
total: 16

Iraqi bombers downed by Iranian F-14s
5 Tu-22
total: 5

Iraqi non-combar aircraft downed by Iranian fighters
3 An-26
1 B-60
1 C-601
total 4+

At this present time, the world is dominated by threats, loud outcries and tensions which have demolished the existence of peace and security within the world. By causing war and conflict certain world powers are rapidly expanding their dominion, gaining greater wealth by taking over all resources, while others have to bear the resulting poverty, suffering and misery. Certain powers seek to rule the world relying on weapons and threats, while others live in continuous insecurity and danger. Certain Powers occupy the homeland of others, hinder their affairs and control their resources while innocent civilians are bombarded daily in their own homes; their children slaughtered in the streets of their own country and their homes reduced to rubble.

Incase you have not realised; I am referring to the United States of America and Israel.

Although between 1965 and 1969 more bombs were dropped on North Vietnam than all the bombs dropped during WW2, they failed to have much effect. The North Vietnamese were determined not to give in.

Arms production, industries and civilians were taken out of cities and put into the countryside. The North Vietnamese built 30,000 miles of tunnels, and in heavily bombed areas people spent much of their lives underground.

When the US bombed the Ho Chi Minh Trail, the North Vietnamese and the Vietcong simply built another road in another part of the jungle. An estimated 90,000 North Vietnamese, many of them women and children, worked full time to keep the lines of transport open. Piles of gravel were kept along the roadways, enabling young volunteers to fill craters within hours of a bombing raid. The US military was amazed at how quickly the roads could be repaired; within days, the North was able to re-supply the Vietcong in the South.

Hi guys, before I joined this forum, I had been reading posts made by other members for a while, some good some not so good. I have decided to join as ther has been many a time I wished I could have said my piece. Anyway, I am from Scotland, 42 years old and work as a Rail worker. Thanks for having me. :)